Groups
How can I avoid having my list message tagged as spam?Return-Path: <groupname-owner+name=domain.org@groups.electricembers.net>
Groups encodes the subscriber’s address within the return address, beginning after the + sign and with the @ sign replaced by =. So in the above, +name=domain.org translates to name@domain.org, which is the actual subscribed address. It is from that address that any list subscription change requests must come, in order for Groups to know who you are.
Delivery not authorized, message refused (5.7.1)
This is the actual rejection message from their mail server, and it should give some idea (however cryptic) of why the message was bounced. To try to see more detail, you can click the View Last Bounce link below that line, which will show the rejected message in its entirety. Usually you can ignore the Bouncing Subscribers table, and people will either have their status reset after 30 days or be removed automatically from the list if their bounce scores climb high enough. If you see that there are a lot of temporary bouncers on there and you want to clear them out, you can select them all and hit the Reset Errors button to give them a clean slate. Or if they’ve been bouncing for a long time and their bounce scores are remaining low because of the type of bounces and the list’s traffic pattern, they’ll never reach the threshhold to be automatically unsubscribed, so you can select them all and hit the Delete Selected Email Addresses button to unsubscribe them from your list.
Spam and Viruses
Too much spam is coming through -- what can you do?- First, ensure that your mail server is locked down against receiving mail directly from any servers other than Shield, as spammers and viruses will manage to find that and send to you directly, circumventing the protective shield. Please see the relevant section of the Shield Admin Guide.
- Next, if you’re seeing a lot of messages with the [SPAM] tag in your inbox, you simply need to set up automatic filters on the user side to dump these messages into a junk mailbox. See the filtering answer below. Or, if you decide that you would like us to change our handling of spam for your address or your whole domain so that we simply delete more of the spams instead of tagging and delivering them, please write to our help address.
- If you’re seeing something on the order of 10-20 messages per day without any [SPAM] tag in a single person’s mailbox, that may just be a temporary wave of spammers being more successful than usual, which can last days or weeks. We are constantly training our systems on the new stuff and eventually our filters will catch up, but if you also want to help train the system with the spams you’re seeing, please see the reporting answer below.
- If you’re seeing scores or hundreds of untagged spam messages per day to a single mailbox, there may be something seriously misconfigured, so please contact us and we will help you figure it out.
- Missed (untagged) spam or virus Our filtering system is more accurate than most (eg. Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL), but it does occasionally make mistakes: around 1% of spam may slip through untagged. We accept this level of false negatives in order to avoid the risk of false positives. But if you receive something unwanted that wasn’t tagged, you can report it as spam, to make Shield work better for everyone. If you use Webmail you can simply click “Mark as Spam.” Otherwise forward it as an attachment to the following address:
- Missed spam: Forward as attachment to: report-spam (at) electricembers (dot) net
- Missed virus: Forward as attachment to: help (at) electricembers (dot) net
- Legitimate mail wrongly tagged as spam or virus In the less common case of false positives, we always want to know about it so we can tune our filtering to eliminate these instances going forward; we aim to have ZEROlegitimate messages marked as spam or virus. If a message is tagged as a virus, it will have an Shield attachment that describes the reason and gives instructions for notifying us and retrieving the original message from quarantine. If a message is falsely tagged as spam: If you use our Webmail you can simply click “Mark as Not Spam.” Otherwise forward it as an attachment to: report-ham (at) electricembers (dot) net.
To forward as an attachment in most popular email clients, see these instructions. However, for MS Outlook, instead of their back-door technique we recommend this procedure:
Forward as an attachment in Outlook
- Select Tools | Options… from the menu.
- Under the Preferences tab, click E-mail Options….
- Make sure “Attach original message” is selected under “When forwarding a message.”
- Click OK, then OK again, and forward the message as usual.
Note: If you have Shield service and the problem is just that you’re seeing all the messages with [SPAM] and [VIRUS] tags in your Inbox, you simply need to set up automatic filtering.
Mac Mail:
Go to Preferences –> Rules, and add something like this:

Thunderbird:
Click Tools –> Message Filters, then click New… and create a rule that looks something like this:

MS Exchange:
Administrators of Exchange servers that use our Shield service can set up automatic filtering into per-user spam folders by installing the free plugin from Mailshell.
Outlook 2000 and similar:
- Go to File –> New –> Folder, and create a new folder called “junk” or “spam”
- Go to Tools –> Rules Wizard, and create a New rule
- Choose “Check messages when they arrive”
- Choose “with specific words in the subject” (click the check box, then in the lower window click the “specific words” link)
- Enter “[SPAM]” (no quotes)
- Choose “move it to the specified folder” (click the check box, then in the lower window click the “specified folder” link, and choose your spam folder)
- Click Finish
If you’re using an email program not listed here or have other questions, contact us.
Delivery Errors and other Email Problems
Why am I receiving bounces to messages (maybe spams) I didn't send?So first off, don’t worry that your email account or domain name is compromised or stolen or hacked. Spammers can use your email address quite easily without hacking your account. Since spammers tend to rotate through many different From: domains, spam backscatter tends to explode one day and then disappear for months, so the worst is probably over. But it’s still irritating to receive all this junk.
You may wonder, “Can’t something be done about this?” In fact, something is being done: new enhancements to the Internet’s mail protocols (Sender Policy Framework, Sender ID and DKIM) are being finalized and adopted, and will begin to curtail the spoofing of “From:” addresses, which would take care of most of the problem. But it will be a while before wide adoption of the new standards takes place, and all we can do until then is wait.
The long version: Greylisting is our most effective anti-spam measure, and it works by giving a temporary failure (a 4.x response) the first time a sending server tries a message from a new sender to a new recipient. All legitimate mail servers should handle this temporary failure by deferring the message and trying again later, often within 5-30 minutes, at which point we accept the message and whitelist the triad of sending server, sender, and recipient, so mail will flow unimpeded on future attempts. (Mail servers are also fully whitelisted after a certain number of successful sends from any recipient to any sender on our end.) Spammers are blocked because their homebrewed spam-sending software mostly gives up after one attempt, for both technical and economic reasons, while legitimate mail gets through because the Internet standards (RFCs) require mail servers to handle these deferrals properly. This amazingly simple technique eliminates about 90% of spam at your doorstep, without even having to scan it for spam-like characteristics, while having very little effect on real mail. See greylisting.org for more detail.
However, even though the RFCs are the only reason the Internet works and we need to be able to rely on servers obeying them, occasionally we find that someone’s mail server does not comply with the standard. If that happens and you get a rejection message, you can let your sender know that they should contact their email service provider about their server’s non-compliance, but you can also let us know and we’ll investigate and take whatever action is necessary, including manual whitelisting, to allow their mail through.
- You use Microsoft Outlook (or software based on it, like Entourage);
- you configure Outlook to connect to the server via POP; and
- you configure Outlook to leave copies of messages on the server.
The symptom of the problem is that everything works fine for days or months or years, and then one day Outlook starts downloading multiple copies of every message you receive, or it downloads copies of hundreds or thousands of old messages you already received in the past.
EE has been receiving reports about this problem consistently for years, always exclusively with Outlook and Outlook-based email programs, during which time we’ve used several different email server software platforms. As far as we can tell, the problem is caused by corruption in Outlook’s internal representation of the status of your account on the server.
To understand why this might happen, try to imagine what Outlook is doing every time it checks your mail. It connects to the server, looks over the long list of messages stored there, and tries to remember which it’s already downloaded (so it doesn’t download them again), which you’ve deleted in Outlook (so it can delete those on the server), and which have simply aged enough to be removed from the server (depending on the timeframe you’ve configured). Then it has to download any new messages you’ve received and add those to its internal database of messages to track in the future.
This work is all necessary because POP was designed as a simple way for an email program to fetch all mail from a server — the default behavior under POP is to download and delete all messages each time the program checks for mail, leaving your account on the server completely empty after each check. Keeping track of all those extra copies on the server is something Outlook has to do on its own, and this gets especially complicated when hundreds or thousands of messages accumulate on the server and messages are being added to and removed from Outlook’s database every few minutes. (True, computers are supposed to be good at this kind of accounting, but software isn’t perfect, and that seems to go double for Microsoft’s creations and triple for Outlook.)
The short-term fix: since you can’t fix Outlook, you have to reset its corrupt internal database by telling Outlook to stop keeping copies of messages on the server. There’s no better fix than starting over with a clean server Inbox and an empty internal database. Depending on how much mail you’ve been keeping on the server (7 days? 30 days? 90 days? all of it?) you might need to be careful with this change, to prevent triggering another download of all that mail. It might be best to reconfigure Outlook, quit it before the next Send/Receive, then log into Webmail and empty your Inbox on the server before starting Outlook again. (Having a local techie on hand can be very helpful with this process.) If you want to resume keeping messages on the server, you can then reconfigure Outlook accordingly, but why risk a repeat of this problem?
The long-term fix: if you’ve been relying on “keep messages on server” to roughly sync your server Inbox (seen via webmail) to your Outlook Inbox, you might want to investigate using IMAP instead of POP. This results in a system where you have one single view of your email folders and messages, no matter how or where you access them. Again, assistance from a local techie is essential in any substantial change to your email system.
Other Technical questions
I lost my password. How can I retrieve it?- Groups: On the Groups site, click Password Reset
- Mail users: Contact your organization’s email administrator
- Mail & Shield administrators: An authorized contact should email help@electricembers.coop
- Web Hosting/MailBox: An authorized contact should email help@electricembers.coop
For all services other than Groups, your current password cannot be retrieved; it will have to be reset to a new value.
- the last four nights
- one, two, three weeks ago
- one, two, three months ago
Please let us know immediately if you discover any need for restoring any of your data from our backups.
- Open the unwanted message in your inbox.
- Go to the “File” menu, then click on “Properties”.
- Go to the “Details” tab. The header information will be in the “Details” window.
Microsoft Outlook:
- Open the unwanted message in your inbox.
- Click on “View”.
- Go to “Options”. The header information will be in the “Internet Headers” window.
Gmail:
- Click the unwanted message to view it.
- Click on the down arrow at the upper right corner of the message (next to “Reply”).
- Select “Show original”.
Thunderbird:
- Open the unwanted message in your inbox.
- Go to the “View” menu, click on “Headers”, and select the “All” option.
AOL:
- Log into your AOL account.
- Open the unwanted message in your inbox.
- At the very end of the message, the full header information will be displayed below the line labeled “Headers”.
Eudora:
- Open the unwanted message in your inbox.
- Click the “Blah Blah Blah” button in the upper left-hand corner of the message window.
Hotmail:
- Log into your Hotmail account.
- Click on “Options” at top of screen.
- Then click “Preferences (at far right, under “Additional Options”).
- Go to “Message Headers” under “Other Hotmail Options”.
- Click on the “Full” button, then scroll down and click “okay”. All messages will now display full header information directly below the “basic” header information (right below the date).
Billing and Payments
When and how will we be billed?Best Practices
Password stewardshipYour EE services are provided by peer-reviewed open source software and protected by cryptographically secure encryption technologies and tight security policies. However, all the careful programming, system administration, and advanced mathematics in the world are useless if you pick a weak password, or give it out to the wrong people! Maintaining a strong password is how you protect your data and prevent abuse of your account. Please do not use weak, easy to guess passwords like password, 1234, your username again, etc.
After you have shared a password with someone, or even after we send your initial passwords via email, it makes sense to reset your passwords to something only you know.
How to change your password for: Web accounts, Mail users or administrators, Shield administrators, Groups subscribers or administrators
- Maximum message size: 15MB (good practice) 25MB (our upper limit)
- Maximum number of direct recipients: 25-100 (good practice) 250 (our upper limit)
If you’re beyond these limits, please use these alternatives:
Note that using a list server (like Groups) doesn’t eliminate the problems with sending large files, in fact it becomes even more inappropriate to send large attachments to a group. If you need to do that, see the recommendations below for uploading your file to the “shared documents” area of Groups, your website, or a file sharing service, and then simply emailing a link to that URL. This is a much more efficient way to distribute files to all your recipients.
Luckily there are many more efficient ways of sending large files. If you’re sending them within an office, you may be able to use local file sharing. If you’re sending them to someone out on the Internet, you can upload the file to your website, and send an email with just the URL, or you might choose a free service like SendSpace, YouSendIt or Dropbox. If you distribute many files to the same recipients over and over, you might all be able to use a peer-to-peer file sharing service like Pando. If you’re sending large files to a list hosted on our Groups service, you can use the “Shared documents” feature that comes with every group — just look for it in the group’s menu.
